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Author	jirka
Tags	author:jirka challenge hard rated
Created	2014-02-06
Last Modified	2014-02-06
Rating	3 by 5 people.
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Description	I know you were talking about cheating. This level is made to be cheatable. What's the fastest way you can find to complete this level? This map is not very good for normal play, I guess. Also I'd like to see speedrun demos. This level is not made for agd/highscore. Hint: Not all switches are actually needed.

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Armaghan_Ali

2014-06-29

I LOVE THIS MAP!!!!

ITS THE BEST MAP I HAVE EVER PLAYED IN MY WHOLE LIFE!!!
UR THE BEST MAPPER IN WHOLE WORLD!!!

DW40

2014-04-30

Dude I love this map

Finding the cheats and improving the run each time was really fun!!!

1211

2014-02-11

Speedrunning episodes can be fun!

When I went for them, I generally studied the routes first. Which ones are you going for?

jirka

2014-02-10

I realize what you meant in your comment on my other map.

I just wanted to say I'm happy I actually had some success in speedrunning episodes. I'll probably slowly improve my speedruns and maybe I'll be able to get to top 20 of more levels than now after some time.

Mohit_Ghune

2014-02-10

this conversation reminded of my unfinished business on 3-0

now its done.. ;)

jirka

2014-02-08

Thanks for help

Thanks for comments. Also for rating, yes it's not very good map, but I made it for only reason that you guys were talking about cheating, so I know why that somebody gave me low rating. Thanks for 5aving Mohit.

Also I'll simply practice doing that chimneying bug and maybe I'll figure it out. It would really help doing speedruns in some levels.

1211

2014-02-08

Try doing what I did in my run (9th).

Maybe that might help.

1211

2014-02-08

It just requires two well-timed wall jumps on 3-0 speedrun. I think it also depends on the speed you're going at when you enter below the exit key.

jirka

2014-02-07

Will anybody tell me the secret of getting doorswitch this way?

How can you grab the switch without opening that 1 door? That's the only thing I was never able to do/manage so for example trying to speedrun episode 3 level 0 would be pointless for me, because it would be simply too slow. (Look at 0th speedrun-using this bug and 12th speedrun 200 frames slower as the fastest speedrun without that bug)

Sorry for double post, I didn't want to post too long comment

jirka

2014-02-07

You got me, hehe

Thanks for demos. Arctic_Pony, your speedrun is exactly what I wanted to see, the fastest possible way how to do this level. Mohit, your run was good too.

I know I made a paradox by saying this level is made to be cheatable, but that was my idea of challenge. In conclusion this map is not cheatable, it uses bugs/tricks to find the fastest way, but I knew about all shortcuts (I tested them personally so it could be "cheatable" that way)

Arctic_Pony

2014-02-07

speedrun.

the run can be cleaned up a bit but oh well.

as a longtime cheater/speedrunner, i've always considered a "cheatable map" to be a map that can be completed in a way the author did not intend. it's sort of an oxymoron to intentionally build a cheatable map. that's just my opinion, though :)

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Mohit_Ghune

2014-02-07

5aved

'coz this map explains what I meant by a cheatable map.
Also, I am not that good at chimneying so sub-650 is definitely possible.

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